Alyssa: “Sasha, what is the finest
thing you’ve ever said or done? Why is this statement or action so significant?”
Sasha: “Um, I’d say that the
“finest” thing I’ve ever done was starting to go to my therapy sessions with
Coz. I know that this isn’t really significant to anyone else, but it’s really
significant to me. And if you think about it, that’s all that really matters. I
think that this is so significant because it was when I really realized that I
wanted to change. I don’t think I was even ready to actually change when I
first started therapy, and honestly, I’m not sure if I’m really ready to change
at this point. But, at least I do realize that I want to change. Anyways, this
is significant because I had realized that I didn’t really care about things
that I used to care about. In my story, the author wrote, “She and Coz were
collaborators, writing a story whose end had already been determined: she would
get well. She would stop stealing from people and start caring about the things
that had once guided her.” By this quote, you can see what I mean. When I
started to realize that the things I used to care about were slipping farther
and farther away from me was when I thought Oh
shit, what am I doing? And honestly, that’s the worst realization that a
person can have. I made a list of things that I eventually wanted to
accomplish, and at the rate I was going, I would never be able to accomplish
any of those. Being a “kleptomaniac”, as Coz tells me, would forever prevent me
from accomplishing anything. My “condition” would forever be a terrible habit
and burden if I didn’t get it under control. So, yes, I really do think that
this was the finest thing I’ve ever done, even though people go to therapy all
the time. I never saw a problem with me stealing, but that was the problem
within itself. I didn’t have a grip on what I was actually doing to myself and
my life. So, even though I feel like Coz thinks of me to be a huge idiot, I’m
grateful that he’s here for me in this process. I’m especially grateful that he
leads me to believe that one day I will get well, and I’ve come to understand
my condition to great depths. If I hadn’t made this decision, I could be
stealing money or things that actually matter to people. So, deciding to see
Coz was a huge decision that I needed to make, so I did.”
Alyssa: “Sasha, which poem from
the syllabus (by poets such as Emily Dickinson, Adrienne Rich, Natasha Trethewey,
etc.) best reflects your own beliefs and ideas, or which poem’s ideas do you
disagree with most strongly?”
Sasha: “If I had to choose a poem from the
syllabus that best reflects my own beliefs and ideas, I would choose “The Road
Not Taken” by Robert Frost. If you’ve never closely analyzed this poem, then
you probably have the totally wrong idea about this choice. But I, on the other
hand, completely understand the meaning of this poem, and I can closely relate
it to my own life and beliefs. I’ll explain: Basically, the quick summary of
the poem is that in life you’ll constantly be coming to different roads that
you can take (not literally, but figuratively) and you’re going to have to
choose one and follow it. And after you choose that first road, you’ll come to
other roads and you’ll have to keep making decisions on which road to take,
even though you don’t know where it will take you. And, once you’ve chosen a
road and followed it, you can’t go back and try again with the other road if
you don’t like the outcome. You’ll be a different person, and you’ll have to
make things work with what you’ve decided to do. I can closely relate to this,
and I mean closely, because at some point I made the decision to take something
from someone. And once I did that, I allowed myself to create a habit of it and
so forth. Then one day I came to two roads and one was to keep doing what I was
doing, and the other was to try to get better. I don’t know how the road I’m on
will be, but this is the road I’ve taken and I’ll have to live with the
decision I’ve made. In my story, there’s quite a few examples of roads that I
could’ve taken and roads that I did take. One decision that I had to make was
whether or not to take the plumbers screwdriver. In my story the author writes,
“Opening her eyes, she saw the plumber’s tool belt lying on the floor at her
feet. It had a beautiful screwdriver in it, the orange translucent handle
gleaming like a lollipop in its worn leather loop, the silvery shaft sculpted,
sparkling. Sasha felt herself contract around the object in a single yawn of
appetite: she needed to hold the screwdriver, just for a minute.” When I was in
therapy later talking to Coz about it, he asked me how I felt about taking it,
and I replied by saying, “Bad… O.K.? I felt bad.” So, the two roads I could’ve
taken were to either take the plumber’s screwdriver, or to obviously not take
it. And obviously, I took the screwdriver, and my consequence down the road was
that I feel bad about it. But, I can’t go back and not take the screwdriver, so
I have to deal with my consequence. And I have to continue through life and use
it as a learning experience. There’s a lot of reasons why I relate to that
poem, and that’s just one of them.”
Alyssa: “Which character from Harriet Jacobs’s Incidents in the Life of a Slave
Girl do you find most
compelling, either because you sympathize with them or because you dislike
them?”
Sasha: “The character that I find most
compelling from Incidents in the Life of
a Slave Girl would definitely have to be Harriet Jacobs herself, or Linda
as she referred to herself in the story. I would say that I find her most
compelling definitely because I sympathize with her, and not because I dislike
her. I actually really wish that I got to meet her. The reason that I find her
most compelling is because I see a lot of myself in her, or vice versa. I see
this connection because Harriet Jacobs never wanted to give in to being a slave
and to be a part of this life style she was living in. This is shown in Chapter
4 when she writes, “I had not lived fourteen years in slavery for nothing. I
had felt, seen, and heard enough, to read the characters, and question the
motives, of those around me. The war of my life had begun; and though one of
God’s most powerless creatures, I resolved never to be conquered.” This quote
shows that Linda has been in this lifestyle of slavery for a very long time,
and she now knows enough about it to know that it’s not a lifestyle that she
belongs in. I can connect this to myself because, in my life, I am a slave to
this problem that I have with taking items that don’t belong to me; I, also,
will not let this problem conquer me, because I’m stronger than that. That’s
the reason that I’m in therapy. Even though it can be annoying to me, I know that
it will help me win this war. Also in Chapter 4, Jacobs wrote, “We all
concluded by saying, ‘He that is willing to be a slave, let him be a slave.’” This
quote shows that Linda doesn’t feel bad for people that aren’t willing to
change their slave lifestyle. He’s fighting to escape, and if people don’t want
to follow her, she doesn’t care, because if they don’t have the drive to be
free, then they never will be. I really like this quote because, again, Linda
is showing her stubbornness towards being a slave forever, just like how I
refuse to be a thief forever.”
Alyssa: “What are your thoughts about the
“Declaration of Sentiments” or the “Cult of Domesticity”?”
Sasha: “Hmmm… I definitely respect the
“Declaration of Sentiments”. First of all, I’m a single woman, and I’m doing
with my life whatever I please. I can’t even imagine being anything of a man’s
“property”. That would never fly with me. The “Declaration of Sentiments” is
very eye opening to me. It states, “The history of mankind is a history of
repeated injuries and usurpations on the part of man toward woman, having in
direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over her.” This quote
shows that women have been controlled by men throughout all of history, and
women have been treated as property to men and not as actual people. This quote
really shocks me that things used to be this way. So with that, I highly
respect the “Cult of Domesticity” for coming together to create this document. Also,
I really respect this document because, like everything else I’ve discussed
with you in this interview, these women wanted a change. They didn’t want to be
in this possessive lifestyle forever. I respect anyone that wants to make a
change in their lives, because I too, am trying to make a change. I know it’s
probably annoying that I keep relating everything to me wanting to make a
change in my life, but it’s very important to me. I really wanted to be a
different and better me, so I decided to start therapy and make a change. Just
like how Harriett Jacobs wanted to make a change, so she decided to try to
escape slavery, and how these women wanted to make a change so they had this
conference and made this document. The Cult of Domesticity really gives me
courage that I will be a better me one day, because look at what these women
started! These women were oppressed and had no rights, and today, there’s women
like me that can do whatever they want and they don’t even need a man in their
lives! That’s true inspiration.”
Alyssa: “Who is the most important rebel,
exile, or outcast from one of the other texts from the syllabus and why?
(Do not choose a character from the tale in which your character appears, one
you have already written about, or from Jacobs’s narrative.)”
Sasha: “If I had to choose one rebel or exile
from the syllabus that I think is the most important, I would probably choose
Zits. I feel like him and I are basically on the same page with our lives. I
say this because he had a messed up life and had to make a lot of decisions on
his own, and that wound up leaving him to have a lot of problems. Relating back
to “The Road Not Taken” by Robert Frost, it’s impossible for him to go back and
not run away from all of those foster homes and foster families, and he can’t
go back and not get put in juvenile jail all that times that he did. But, I
really like when Officer Dave told him, “You’re running out of chances… The
chance to save your life.” And why I think this is so cool is because Zits
actually does change his life. He went through a lot of experiences that made
him realize that he wanted things to be different, and he wanted to be
different, just like me! I felt bad every single time that I took something
from someone, and I realized I waned to be different. In my story, I told Coz,
“Shit, I’m bankrupting myself to pay for you – obviously I get that this isn’t
a great way to live.” Although I was quite snotty when I said that to Coz, it’s
really quite true. I didn’t want to be stealing things from people forever. I
knew that one day I was going to get in trouble, like how I almost got busted
for stealing that wallet from the woman in the bathroom, and I also knew that I
was going to feel even worse about taking things as time went on. I realized I
was better than I was portraying myself to be, just like Zits. Also, I feel
that Zits is the most important rebel or exile to me because his life turns
around in the end, and that is exactly what I wish will happen to me. Obviously
I don’t think I’ll go through transformations like he did, and I don’t think
I’ll be able to go back in time and un-steal the first thing I ever stole, but
I do believe that I have the potential to change things around. I mean, if Zits
was put in jail constantly and didn’t go through therapy and was still able to
turn things around for himself, then I’m pretty damn positive that I’ll be able
to too. So, yeah, I’d say that his experience is very important to me, in that
I hope that Ill be able to change just like he did.” (Word Count: 2235)
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